Norwegian cancels all plans to resume long haul flights, Washington DC area virtual meeting Sunday, January 17, 10:00 am ET, CDC To Extend Negative COVID-19 Test Requirement to All Inbound International Air Travelers, Looking Up European Train Schedules and Routes Online, Navigating Europe by Car: Apps, Maps, and Trip Tips. So, if you really want to be in Italy, don't go to France just because of a low airfare - you'll just have a miserable time. It appears, it is cheaper if I go to Paris for 4 nights, then take 2 hour flight to Italy (2 weeks of Rome, Naples, AMalfi, Matera etc) and then fly to Lisbon for 3 nights and then return home... That whole itinerary is cheaper than one RT to Rome. So, Paris is the better town but , all Italy is better than all France (for me) . My original plan was to go to Rome, Naples, Amalfi, Matera and PUglia in the fall. I'm still crossing my fingers for Fall. You can't go wrong with either choice! Heading to Paris? If you to to France wanting it will be like Italy, your trip will be a Sweden is more expensive than either France or Italy. Register. … Posted on June 18, 2017 June 16, 2017. Hi Lola, 7 years ago. I have spent extensive time in both countries, and in various parts of both countries. Just wondering if anyone has downloaded one of his books to a Kindle? Here's Italy: https://andiamo.zenfolio.com/f739967755. Demolished in the 1970s, it was replaced with an underground shopping mall. I'd make the same suggestion to you. My goodness, Sept 2021 is nearly a year away so much could happen with fares between now and the months closer to your trip! France will always be there for another time. Eleanor (mother of Richard the LionHeart) spent the end of her life in nearby Fontevraud Abbey. Ugh. Certainly, whatever decision you'll make, you will have a great trip. My husband would definitely chose Italy. 4) Alsance-- Strasbourg is great. :O) So some of those were small rural towns (Casis and Perouges) that were both accessible by public transportation. Still planning trip to Italy in 2021, but now I see much better flight deals to Paris around Sept 2021. Paris offers sweeping boulevards, chatty crêpe stands, chic boutiques, and world-class art galleries. I recall reading comments by knowledgeable posters on this forum to the effect that September is the most expensive month of the year for lodging in Paris. Or Is it easier to page thru and go back and forth a... Paris. Guidebooks are also good sources, especially if you can borrow from a library. When I’m in Paris, in addition to those audio tours, my indispensable tool is the Rick Steves Paris guidebook. Good Luck!!! For me Paris is better than every other Italian town. Rick Steves' Europe. Answer 61 of 81: I like Rick Steves guide books, but I also use others as well,and of course the web. Flight is only 2 hours and cost is under 90 Euro pp. Happy planning!!! Smaller text Larger text. Jump to bottom. Are they easy to follow? Master the Louvre and Orsay museums. Rick's videos are here - scroll down to France: https://www.ricksteves.com/watch-read-listen/video/tv-show. I would recommend Italy, if it is your first time visiting Europe. Maybe the crowds on Rome buses vs. the crowds on the Paris Métro? But that's just me. constant series of disappointments and annoyances. Gene, along with being a big fan of Italy, (as am I) it also sounds as if you're working with a comfort-level consideration? Italy vs. France. Would be interesting to have the others on this thread offer up their own speculations. Travel Forum; Shop Online; Rick Steves' Europe. That is only anecdotal, not scientifically based though ! Last year, we followed the Rick Steves Latin Quarter, Montmartre, and Marais walking tours. I'll cheerfully admit to a personal loathing for working out the ins-and-outs of foreign transport! Thank you for all your wonderful suggestions. Yes, some places may require more diligent effort to find those good values, but it's doable. Comparing fares for dates this week vs. mid-December (before the holiday period) will give you an idea of how much you can save by buying tickets way ahead of time, if you're comfortable doing that. I'm struggling to understand which thing you are concerned about.... With respect, Gene, it seems like you're asking people to generalize about whole countries without knowing much about your interests, tastes, budget, or preferences. 2) Loire Valley-- Several amazing Chateau to see. In general, which has better value in terms of travel, sightseeing, lodging and food??" Posted by marte (temecula ca) on 11/14/15 05:25 PM. Has every traveler loved it like I do? Search. 435 posts . New to the forum? Many on this forum know a lot about particular places and choices, but need specific questions to answer and enough background to make the answers helpful. I've done some research on Paris for a future trip, and it's my impression Paris hotels are more expensive than Rome hotels. I think the Montmartre tour was the easiest and most relaxed, because the area was less crowded than the Latin Quarter and Marais. :O). In the last few years, we've been back to both (my wife was also on the 1966 trip, that's where we fell in love). And I suggest you start a separate thread saying you need help planning a trip to France, starting in Paris and tell us length of time and what kinds of places you like and you'll get all kinds of suggestions. I m Italian and i ve been in France twenty times in twenty Years,last time in 2013. If you had asked about either France or Italy versus say Sweden or Slovenia then there would be an answer. There is plenty to see there, all well worth it. If it's ONLY the price of airfare that's behind the potential change of plan, I'd keep Italy. But aside from the comfort factor, it doesn't appear as if you're all that jazzed about France to begin with so why keep it on the table? Paris forums . To post a question or comment, you need to have an account. Rick, along with co-authors Steve Smith and Gene Openshaw, have done a formidable job of making one of Europe’s best and biggest cities engaging, fun, and easy to navigate. I watch and enjoy Rick Steves TV shows. Choose a message board from the menus below or see the latest from All Topics. It doesn't look like Spring trip to Europe will happen. newtoplaya. Among the areas most frequently mentioned on this forum are Normandy (especially the invasion sites and Mont-St-Michel), Alsace, the Loire Valley, Provence, the Riviera and the Dordogne. I suppose "them's fightin' ' words" for some here, but I agree. Start a New Topic. Level Contributor . I've spent a lot of time (about 4-1/2 months) in France (not including Paris) in recent years but less time in Italy, though my time in Italy did include Rome and Puglia. Best trip of our lives and can’t wait to try the southern end. But, for example, I took the train from Paris to Brieve and rented a car there for the Dordogne. Italy is probably my top favorite. In fact most people forget that there was even ANYTHING bombed here. Answer 1 of 13: My wife and I find Rick Steves books very helpful. He also hosts a weekly public radio show that is broadcast nation-wide. https://www.turismoroma.it/en/node/37053. Fortunately, he only got a Rick Steves travel guide, 2 small umbrellas, and a map. As in Italy, trains go to a lot of the places you'd probably consider visiting. ©2021 Rick Steves' Europe, Inc. | I think some of us can sympathize with that feeling as we've been there ourselves. I know that's alot, but that's what happens, when we have travel starvation...LOL.. Gettysburg, PA, USA. And for a generation it’s been a mess. Each can be great or bad, depending on your personal preferences and the places you select. These suggested itineraries from my Paris guidebook will help you prioritize the many sights, whether you're spending one day, two days, three days, or up to a week in Paris. Feel free to … Here's my photos of France: https://andiamo.zenfolio.com/f667172952 Posted by Gene (Pennsylvania) on 10/22/20 03:01 PM. Even though I haven’t posted on this thread since Nov, I am reading every recommendations. I did some remapping of my potential trip for Fall 2021. If you go in the meantime, please let me know how you fare on the coffee versus bread debate. Same for Italy. Thank you to all who have contributed. In terms of how to plan a trip to France. Soooo, if you're excited about another rodeo in The Boot, then go for it! Sorry, Gene, but there is no "better". Also did a side trip from Lyon to Perouges via train. I feel like I need to go to France as part of my European bucket lists. Also, unless you are planning on purchasing your tickets now, keep in mind that airfares can fluctuate significantly. If I were you, I would pick out the place or site that I really really want to see the most, and go to that country. While I do not agree with all of his opinions, his guides are well organized and full of useful tips. Thank you to all who have given such wonderful suggestions.Thank you especially the members who suggested I go to both countries.. My point, rather belabored, is that history, dating back to the Romans and extending to WWII is throughout France and quite accessible. While fewer in number than Paris - and I'm not sure how those are counted for either city - it's been PLENTY busy. During September in Paris start to get cold in Campania instead there is still very nice temperature, and the landscapes are amazing. Returning to the US I flew from Rome into Paris then home. 39. He wants to infect everybody with the travel bug, because he believes if everyone went out in the world and experienced life the way it's lived in other cultures, the world would be a better place. In this travel class, Rick Steves guidebook co-author Steve Smith suggests strategies for touring Paris — the Louvre, Orsay, Notre Dame, Eiffel Tower, Champs-Elysées, Rodin Museum, and Montmartre — plus tips on sleeping, eating, and getting around affordably. You can easily check rail fares on the SNCF website once you develop an idea of where you'd like to go. My Account . And the crowd in France is unbearable (I heard.. much more so than Italy). Don't worry about the crowds in Paris. Video: The Perfect Market Street to Call Home in Paris. Go back to Italy ! Daily Dose of Europe: A Little Bone Envy. You could train to Tours and rent a car and explore the gorgeous Loire Valley. In Normandy itself you can move from the Bayeux Tapestry, dating to the 11th century an embroidery in wool thread on linen cloth that tells the story Norman conquest of England in the Battle of Hastings to the beaches of Normandy and experience the amazing WWII effort to free Europe. Thank you to Mona for suggesting taking Both Paris and Italy trip together. There's lots more to Paris than the Eiffel Tower and the Louvre. And you would have plenty of time to research where to go once you are there. With a bit of pre-planning, I think you'll find the cost of trains/buses doesn't vary enough to be a significant deciding factor between the two countries. If France is the cheapest flight, you can still be in Italy within 2 hours of landing in Paris (or you can stay in Paris for a few days before jetting off to Rome or Naples or wherever you want to go). The Marais District in Paris. I was planning Rome, Amalfi, Puglia trip. Most of France is easily accessed by train but you do need a car in the more rural areas. We did something similar in 2019 and connected the two cities with a very inexpensive one way flight. It would require so much more due diligence regarding France itinerary. I adore Italy and have been there more than to any other country. Thanks. What kind of crowd do you mean? Old timers remember Les Halles as Paris’ gigantic central produce market. I like to know more..and my curiosity why Paris is so much more popular than Rome among tourists. To me, Rome, Florence and Venice are the big three in Italy. A new friend took me inside his home, to the hearth, and introduced me to what was left of his great-grandfather. I've been to Italy 14 times and France 10 times and I love them BOTH (but if I had to choose one Italy would win but just barely). Now, living in the NL, we often train to Paris as it's less than three hours. Suppose someone were to ask you, "I had planned to visit the US, but now I want to visit Canada instead. If your roundtrip flight to Paris was a good deal, my suggestion is to book that part of the trip only for now. Or Is it easier to page thru and go back and forth a... Paris. Travel Forum; Shop Online; Rick Steves' Europe. Wonderstruck by the city's charms, she was doing everything right — picking up French words, conversing with every local she could, and enjoying the great artistic and cultural experiences. Sip decaf with deconstructionists at a sidewalk café, then step into an Impressionist painting in a tree-lined park. Italy has always been my favorite, but this trip in France last year was one of my favorite trips to Europe and now I think they’re a tie. Discuss your latest trip and share your top travel tips. Posted on January 8, 2021 January 11, 2021. And no Paris wasn’t destroyed in the war. Regardless of where you go, give yourself plenty of time to experience your destinations, rather than just see them. You can always change that flight later, if needed, for a fee. :O), That's not to say that Italy's hotspots haven't been uncomfortably overrun during high and shoulder seasons. My question is has anyone done the walking tours that are in the book? For instance, if you look at the forums for France on TA, the majority of questions are in regard to Paris, Paris Disney, day trips from Paris to Versailles and Paris-focused queries that have been placed under the France heading. If (more likely) France has much that would appeal to you, do some research to figure out an itinerary that suits you. In general, which has better value in terms of travel, sightseeing, I rather think there's more hotel-cost variation within Italy than in France. I have been searching Amazon for travel guides and maps, and all three of the above get good reviews. 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